Programming Content Management Systems for Social Change
Minutes for Session: Programming Content Management Systems for Social Change
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programming CMS for social change
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(notes from session)
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INTROs
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cheryl: showinabox
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based on wordpress, so dealing w/WP plugin structure
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PHP
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developers write nice plugins and cheryl tests
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web designer trying to write stylesheets for themes that support the WP plugins
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WP developed VPIP
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latecomer joined the chat room.
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video play in place. not under development but forked
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latecomer is now known as dongjun.
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proprietary stuff is out, it's broken now
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looking for developer to do somethin else
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VPIP autodetects the mediatype and chooses player
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cross browser
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so that's a major focus to make work
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ANDYCAT
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"RTSC"
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plumi is a bundle of products for plone, w/sits on zope, python
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object rather than relational DB
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zope is a web app framework
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gives you the components you construct web apps with
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plone built on that w/typical CMS tools
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plone for artists is zope 3, plumi, is zope 2
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plumi has customized workflows, objects go through different states
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natea
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each object created begins in draft state, other users w/different privs can push objects into other states
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added various 3rd party modules - commenting, rss 2 feeds, etc
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there's another related python project: indytube
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indytube is primitive but mostly works, python script in twisted
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event loop looking for new files that have been added to plone
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Binary Large Object support
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large binary files just stored in filesys
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indycode loops through directory every 60 secs
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if finds files, invokes ffmpeg etc. to transcode
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spits out object embed tag, flash video player
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html brought into template and you get video playing in flash player in web page
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spanna joined the chat room.
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cortado is not ready for prime time,
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so don't do anything w/the ogg files yet
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Dina joined the chat room.
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NATE
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started workin on project to upload video files to plone
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few years back after plone conf
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zope2 became zope3,
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started rewriting to take advantage of new architecture
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deprecated ATvideo
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plumi still uses ATVid
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want to merge here,
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so can work on common codebase
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instead of working in parallel
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advantage of new: can pull in vids hosted on other services
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(over a dozen other vid sites)
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tubemogul!
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j^ joined the chat room.
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j^ was promoted to operator by ChanServ.
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natea left the chat room. (Remote closed the connection)
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natea joined the chat room.
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so, nate is demoing pulling vids from youtube into plone 4 artists
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dongjun
thank you shock
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dongjun
ah.. . sorry.
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can suck all the metadata from youtube onto your own site
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can do this on over a dozen sites, just by pasting the URL
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you can do multi URLs at once
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feedfeeder
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Dina left the chat room.
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pulls rss feeds and enclosures
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suck it into your site
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also there's a python script to scrape the flv from youtube,
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so you can displlay w/out youtube branding
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hence violating TOS, most likely, but what the hell
6:00pm
lovely.tag zope3 adapted for plone
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YUKI
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bandwidth capacity and load average
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are preparing to make some video sites for G8 summit in hokaido
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there will be a lot of functionality requests
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not sure how many will come
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last year G8 TV at roestok was sometimes difficult to connect
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(sorry... not functionality ... question is re: bandwidth and mirrors)
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so question is can they prepare backup site, content synchro is problem
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so maybe so people could mirror content
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are using drupal
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to make a mirror site, have to transfer MYSQL DB contents
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not sure effective way to duplicate
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they have 3 for G 8
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one at anarchist house,
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another one at labornet japan computer,
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server in hokaido
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discussing now the load balance
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have just 30 days
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need to mirror drupal site
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scaling traffic
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media culture action could mirror
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dongjun_ joined the chat room.
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hosting questions
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dongjun_ you know how to solve problem re: transfer MySql DB contents from labornet japan for mirror?
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amazon EC2 host
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amazon has invested billions to create a bandwidth infrastructure and now resell it to developers
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jonair joined the chat room.
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another issue in bangladesh is branding
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everyone wants to brand their own content
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jwplayer
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configurable to put a watermark over vids
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JWPlayer
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DONGWON
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filmforge
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jonair
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jonair
<-- this is the demo.
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jonair
3 groups so far created install profile of drupal 5.7
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thx jonair
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SANJAY
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6:14pm
decided to go with oggs
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OGGS ONLY! woohoo
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spanna left the chat room. (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
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pad.ma uses gstreamer at the backend
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will get more into it in the ogg theora session
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written in python
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frame extraction
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then oggs chop to cut ogg files on the fly
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player is player.js file
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emulates the video tag
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so even if browser doesn't support, uses JS to find player
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now supports java player
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site still doesnt work in IE
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but player does.
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if people have java installed, it works
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looking for help on:
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they have a site where people do heavy annotation
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people were using MS word and tables
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it was hell
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so developed an annotation tool
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JS
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load up video. use VLC
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functional w/raw DV footage
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but buggy w/other video files
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you can add in/out points
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add a description
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add transcript
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XML export
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so transcriptin/annotation tool
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if interface would be useful for subtitling, would be into giving code
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spanna joined the chat room.
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keyframing them is a problem
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buld a gui for ffmpeg2heora
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ffmpegx
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gui for mac
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can be compiled and work on linux but messy
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and not on winduhs
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when video tag comes in it'll be nice
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also been thinkin about in browser editing
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you have timeline, can mark in and out,
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then drag clip down to bin
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etc
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when you're done, tell it to give you what you got
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oggcut will chop up and recombine
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so, collaborative editing
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hacksession!
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oggschop -s inpoint -e outpoint name of outfile, done
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so, FOSS version of eyespot, jumpcut, etc
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so if anyone wants to hack on it and has familiarity of python
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q re: do you need to convert to ogg to do that?
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a: you need a common format for vid editing, but user doesn't have to do it.
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they just upload and we convert to ogg on back
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padma written w/turbogears
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hasn't been packaged yet
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2-3 months they'll have a package out
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ok, we're tired!
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gonna cut and paste other stuff into another session
6:31pm
ok that's it!
